Pierre Whalon
2 min readJan 22, 2025

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A fine argument! If the universe has meaning, Something gave it, else our thirst for meaning, including science, is a delusion in a random mess.

But it is vital to make a distinction between a Creator as self-caused cause and uncaused cause. A self-caused cause is a part of the universe and therefore not God. In my book Choose the Narrow Path, I quoted St. Maximus the Confessor, one of the greatest theologians ever:

"Both of these ways of speaking of God [the kataphatic or positive, and the apophatic or negative] must, in their proper sense, be applicable to God, yet on the other hand neither of them—being or not being—can be applicable in a proper sense. Both are applicable in their own way, in that the one statement affirms God’s being as the cause of the being of things, while the other denies it because it lies, as cause, so infinitely beyond all caused being; on the other hand, neither is properly applicable, because neither way of speaking presents us with the real identity of what we are looking for, in its essence and nature. For if something cannot be identified as either being or not being in terms of its natural origin, it clearly cannot be connected either with what is, and what is therefore the subject of language. Such a reality has a simple and unknown mode of existence, inaccessible to all minds and unsearchable in every way, exalted beyond all affirmation and denial.[1][1] In Mystagogia, PG 91, 664AC. Translation from Hans Urs Von Balthasar, The Cosmic Liturgy: The Universe According to Maximus the Confessor (San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 2003), 89. Recalling Hooker’s words, quoted above: “our soundest knowledge is to know that we know him not as indeed he is, neither can know him.”

I[n Mystagogia, PG 91, 664AC. Translation by Hans Urs Von Balthasar, The Cosmic Liturgy: The Universe According to Maximus the Confessor (San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 2003), 89.]

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Pierre Whalon
Pierre Whalon

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